Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

01/18/2005 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:03:14 PM Overview: Commissioner of Dept of Health and Social Services Joel Gilbertson
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DHSS Overview
Commissioner of Dept of Health and
Social Services Joel Gilbertson
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                        January 18, 2005                                                                                        
                           3:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                      
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Representative Lesil Mcguire                                                                                                    
Representative Tom Anderson                                                                                                     
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: COMMISSIONER JOEL GILBERTSON OF THE DEPARTMENT OF                                                                     
HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
JOEL GILBERTSON, Commissioner                                                                                                   
Department of Health and Social Services, DHSS                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the overview of the Department of                                                                
Health and Social Services.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JANET CLARKE, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                               
Division of Finance and Management Services                                                                                     
Department of Health and Social Services, DHSS                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Offered  additional information  regarding                                                               
DHSS technology.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PEGGY WILSON called the  House Health, Education and Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee meeting  to  order  at 3:02:05  PM.                                                             
Representatives Seaton, Kohring, and  Gardner were present at the                                                               
call  to  order.    Representatives  McGuire  and  Anderson  were                                                               
excused.  Also in attendance  were Representatives Kelly, Hawker,                                                               
and Coghill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Overview:   Commissioner of Dept  of Health and  Social Services                                                             
Joel Gilbertson                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:03:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   GILBERTSON  stated   that  the   mission  of   the                                                               
Department  of  Health and  Social  Services  is to  promote  and                                                               
protect the health and well being of all Alaskans.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:05:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON described  three  principles that  guide                                                               
the  department  and  its  agencies.     He  explained  that  the                                                               
principles center on empowerment  of the individuals being served                                                               
and  their  shift toward  self-sufficiency.    He also  discussed                                                               
issues  specific to  the  State  of Alaska.    He mentioned  core                                                               
services  provided by  the  department,  including safe  assisted                                                               
living  programs,  integrated   behavioral  health  systems,  and                                                               
managed health  care for Alaskans  in need.   He stated  that the                                                               
department  creates  public  value   and  helps  to  assure  that                                                               
Alaskans are healthy and productive.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:09:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON stated  that  the  department has  3,200                                                               
full-time  budgeted  positions and  of  those,  1,600 are  direct                                                               
field workers.  He highlighted  specific agencies and the numbers                                                               
of  employees working  for them.    He said  that the  department                                                               
provides services to 100,000 Alaskans  every month, and the total                                                               
budget in the governor's fiscal  year (FY) 2006 budget submission                                                               
is $1.8  billion.  He emphasized  the size and importance  of the                                                               
Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:14:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  described the  eight agencies  and their                                                               
directors within  the Department  of Health and  Social Services.                                                               
He stated that these agencies aim  to accomplish the main goal of                                                               
the department, which  is promoting the health and  well being of                                                               
all Alaskans.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:15:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  explained   that  his  discussion  will                                                               
highlight the agencies that are  within the department.  He began                                                               
by describing  the Alaska Pioneers'  Homes and stated  that there                                                               
are six  pioneers' homes throughout  Alaska.  He  discussed their                                                               
expensive  annual  maintenance  needs.   He  said  that  a  major                                                               
challenge for  the Alaska Pioneers' Homes  is Alzheimer's disease                                                               
and its increasing prevalence.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:21:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  described  the Division  of  Behavioral                                                               
Health  as the  second major  agency within  the department.   He                                                               
stated  that  this division  is  an  integrated agency  that  has                                                               
combined the services of the  Division of Alcohol and Drug Abuse,                                                               
the  Division of  Mental Health  and Developmental  Disabilities,                                                               
and  the Office  of Fetal  Alcohol Syndrome.   He  explained that                                                               
this  is the  first integrated  behavioral health  system in  the                                                               
state  and  it  recognizes  that  a  significant  amount  of  the                                                               
consumers in these programs have co-occurring disorders.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:25:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   GILBERTSON   stated  that   integrated   community                                                               
agencies  are  successfully  functioning   in  several  areas  of                                                               
Alaska.   He  offered examples  of integrated  systems that  were                                                               
able to  deliver more services  without requiring an  increase of                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:27:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON inquired as to  the department's integrated agencies                                                               
that have been established and their structure.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  responded  that integrated  models  are                                                               
often community-specific.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:30:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   GILBERTSON  mentioned   Synar  enforcement.     He                                                               
explained that Synar is federal  legislation that mandates states                                                               
to reduce  the illegal sale of  tobacco to minors.   He described                                                               
using  confidential informants  and collaborating  with retailers                                                               
in Alaska.   He  elaborated on  the penalty  for an  illegal sale                                                               
rate  that is  higher than  20 percent.   He  concluded that  the                                                               
department  has successfully  brought  the  illegal tobacco  sale                                                               
rate down below the 20  percent mark and conserved funding grants                                                               
dependent on a low illegal sale rate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:35:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  inquired as  to the  department's ability                                                               
to predict where  illegal tobacco sales will occur  and about how                                                               
confidential informants are chosen.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  responded  that informants  are  chosen                                                               
randomly.    He  described  rural communities  as  having  higher                                                               
illegal tobacco sale rates.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  addressed the issue of  Alaskan children                                                               
obtaining health and  social services out of state.   He referred                                                               
to the  "Bring the  Kids Home" campaign  and clarified  that this                                                               
program  will utilize  a gate  keeping system  to make  sure that                                                               
when  a child  enters  Alaska's Behavioral  Health  System, at  a                                                               
young  age, it  can  direct  that child  to  a  local service  in                                                               
his/her  community.     He   mentioned  the   Alaska  Psychiatric                                                               
Institute (API).   He explained  the changes associated  with the                                                               
new API building  and the shift in the  treatment paradigm toward                                                               
recovery.   He discussed API  technology advancements  that offer                                                               
behavioral   health  services   to  remote   communities  lacking                                                               
[behavioral health] facilities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:42:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON described  the third  agency within  the                                                               
department as  the Office of  Children's Services.   He described                                                               
this as an  integrated agency.  He emphasized  that this agency's                                                               
planning is built around a prevention model.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:46:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  inquired  as  to how  the  department  deals  with                                                               
program wait lists.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON explained  the program  improvement plan                                                               
of the child  protection system.  He stated that  this program is                                                               
driven  by   negotiated  performance  measures.     He  discussed                                                               
upcoming  budget requests  that would  fund new  positions within                                                               
the Office of Children's Services.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:51:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON inquired  as  to  the department's  budget                                                               
allowance for information technology.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:52:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET  CLARKE,  Deputy  Commissioner,  Division  of  Finance  and                                                               
Management Services,  Department of  Health and  Social Services,                                                               
responded  that there  is a  budget request  for the  purchase of                                                               
specific hardware.  The department is  planning to see how it can                                                               
make improvements on the technology now in use.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON described  a situation  in Homer  in which                                                               
there are delays with the  department's technology.  He requested                                                               
that this situation be addressed further at another time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON said that  situation will be addressed at                                                               
a  later date.    He  described the  difficulty  of working  with                                                               
outdated  systems  and  talked about  future  replacements  where                                                               
information  will be  integrated around  a common  database.   He                                                               
introduced the concept of using  an integrated dataset from which                                                               
the  department   has  access  to   each  agency's  data.     The                                                               
aforementioned   would  empower   field  workers   with  relevant                                                               
background   information   and   provide   better   services   to                                                               
individuals being served.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   inquired  as   to  the   likelihood  of                                                               
obtaining archived information from this future database.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  explained that  although the goal  is to                                                               
move away from  paper, it's a huge  undertaking involving massive                                                               
amounts of data.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:00:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  inquired as  to how the  legislature could                                                               
update  missions  and  measures   and  enable  programs  to  move                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  stated  his belief  that  missions  and                                                               
measures  should   be  annually   updated.    He   explained  the                                                               
department's commitment towards performance measures.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:04:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  expressed  concern  that  the  department                                                               
could  be  following  outdated   missions  and  measures  because                                                               
updated  [missions and  measures] have  not been  adopted by  the                                                               
legislature.   He stated  his belief  that the  department should                                                               
notify the legislature regarding any necessary changes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON turned to  Health Care Services, which is                                                               
the agency  that administers the  Medicaid Program.   He referred                                                               
to the  handout, entitled "Fiscal  Year 2006  Executive Summary."                                                               
He explained  that legislation is  required in order to  halt the                                                               
growth  of  the state's  Medicaid  program.    He said  that  the                                                               
department controls Medicaid reimbursements.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:09:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON described  the  Juvenile Justice  System                                                               
Agency, which follows a restorative  justice model.  He described                                                               
youth   facilities  within   Alaska.     Commissioner  Gilbertson                                                               
commented on the need to use  data effectively.  He described the                                                               
Detention Assessment  Instrument, (DAI), a system  the department                                                               
uses in juvenile justice facilities.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The  department has  implemented  the use  of  an inventory  data                                                               
system that looks at risk factors for youth offense, he related.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:16:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  moved  on  to the  Division  of  Public                                                               
Assistance, which promotes self-sufficiency.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Welfare  reform has  been  a  huge success.    He explained  that                                                               
Alaska  continues  to  decrease caseloads  and  increase  clients                                                               
entering the  workforce.  He  described the immediate  benefit as                                                               
monetary savings [for the state]  and future benefits as families                                                               
who are an integral part of the workforce.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:20:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON turned to  the Division of Public Health,                                                               
and pointed out that Alaska  is the only state without quarantine                                                               
authority.   The  aforementioned and  other Public  Health issues                                                               
will come before the legislature, he noted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:22:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   GILBERTSON  described   the   "Kids  don't   float                                                               
campaign"  and highlighted  its successes  in Alaskan  waterfront                                                               
areas.   He also described  the Senior and  Disabilities Services                                                               
Agency.   He stated that  the rapid  growth of the  personal care                                                               
attendant program is  a challenge for this  agency.  Furthermore,                                                               
the  department's   goal  of  keeping  seniors   in  their  homes                                                               
receiving services is challenging.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:25:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   inquired  as  to  alcoholism   and  any                                                               
specific programs existing that  deal with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome                                                               
(FAS).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   GILBERTSON   explained   that  the   Division   of                                                               
Behavioral Health deals  with alcoholism issues.   He stated that                                                               
Governor  Murkowski  has  requested more  funding  for  substance                                                               
abuse programs.  He addressed the need for prevention programs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:30:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  commented on  the benefit  and value  of prevention                                                               
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  talked  about  delivering  services  to                                                               
improve health  outcomes.  He  discussed the expense  involved in                                                               
the treatment of  chronic health problems.  He  also talked about                                                               
treatment  methods and  promoted case  management as  a means  of                                                               
necessary follow-up treatment.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:34:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON inquired as  to Medicaid-based programs and                                                               
the difficulty of finding participating dentists.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON   elaborated  on   Governor  Murkowski's                                                               
proposal  to  expand  dental services  and  provide  preventative                                                               
services for Medicaid clients.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:38:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON commented  on patients  neglecting  to honor  their                                                               
appointments with dental providers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  agreed that there are  many barriers for                                                               
providers  to work  through.   He stated  that Medicaid  provider                                                               
agreements  are a  challenge for  dentists and  DHSS has  to work                                                               
with them to find appropriate solutions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:40:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  stated that he  would prefer to  see less                                                               
emphasis on  success measurements  based on  the amount  of money                                                               
spent on  programs providing services  for Alaskans.   He related                                                               
his     preference    on     focusing    on     serving    people                                                               
who  truly  need  assistance, including  low-income  seniors  and                                                               
disabled people who  cannot fend for themselves.   He opined that                                                               
the number  of Alaskans being  served is astounding.   Therefore,                                                               
he respectfully requested that the  department demonstrate to the                                                               
legislature that its  programs are serving people  who truly need                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:41:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  clarified that performance  measures are                                                               
not based  on the amount spent  for programs.  He  explained that                                                               
the department focuses  on services delivered and  the benefit to                                                               
society.  Eligibility is defined  by statute, which is determined                                                               
by the legislature.  He  agreed caseloads are incredibly high and                                                               
emphasized  that  the  department promotes  self-sufficiency  and                                                               
actively works  to enable  people to  move off  of programs.   He                                                               
said  that   since  he  has   been  commissioner,   general  fund                                                               
expenditures  have been  reduced  by $160  million  dollars.   He                                                               
explained that  the department implements the  statutes passed by                                                               
the  legislature and  will  continue to  make  sure programs  are                                                               
tailored toward  self-sufficiency.  He related  his commitment to                                                               
the  mission  of the  department,  which  is the  development  of                                                               
healthy and safe  communities.  He emphasized  his willingness to                                                               
work constructively  with the legislature  to address  issues and                                                               
provide the level of service needed by the population.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee meeting                                                                
was adjourned at 4:46:21 PM.                                                                                                  

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